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		<title>By: Vamc</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3594</link>
		<dc:creator>Vamc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sicko.</description>
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		<title>By: senthil</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3465</link>
		<dc:creator>senthil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 05:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks janet..  to be frank, the america is known mainly through the hollywood, MNC&#039;s and the president elections..

In india too, majority of the people are conservatives..  But a few of westernised people are calling all the shots by controlling media and television and to some extent, the government..

I believe, its the same for the americas, where anything conservative is ridiculed..

No one is ready to see it in pragmatic way...  

When rampant violence, vulgar and obscene scenes, caberae dances, etc are actively promoted, how can we solve this acute problem of child sexual abuse?

The individual rights is preferred over the social order, and the result, the threat of social collapse..  the result of which gay marriage and other practices violating the nature are legally accepted..  and thus there are persons who are calling for legalising incests too..

We are heading again to technological stone age ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks janet..  to be frank, the america is known mainly through the hollywood, MNC&#8217;s and the president elections..</p>
<p>In india too, majority of the people are conservatives..  But a few of westernised people are calling all the shots by controlling media and television and to some extent, the government..</p>
<p>I believe, its the same for the americas, where anything conservative is ridiculed..</p>
<p>No one is ready to see it in pragmatic way&#8230;  </p>
<p>When rampant violence, vulgar and obscene scenes, caberae dances, etc are actively promoted, how can we solve this acute problem of child sexual abuse?</p>
<p>The individual rights is preferred over the social order, and the result, the threat of social collapse..  the result of which gay marriage and other practices violating the nature are legally accepted..  and thus there are persons who are calling for legalising incests too..</p>
<p>We are heading again to technological stone age <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jyotika</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3460</link>
		<dc:creator>Jyotika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Archana,
This is one very interesting post, I must say. I stumbled across it when I was checking out the reviews of Mani Bhaumik&#039;s Code Name God. 
I read a book named &quot;Bitter Chocolate&quot; by Pinki Virani about Child Sexual Abuse. There were several examples of incest &amp; the impact it has on the victims. Yes, it is very,very difficult for victims to be able to trust their own people, forget trusting a stranger. And worse, their self-belief, confidence &amp; Life itself changes for ever. Sadly, this is a reality in many homes &amp; the stigma attached to the same keeps the family from reporting it. What purpose does the revelation serve anyway? Apart from questions raised over the victim&#039;s character ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Archana,<br />
This is one very interesting post, I must say. I stumbled across it when I was checking out the reviews of Mani Bhaumik&#8217;s Code Name God.<br />
I read a book named &#8220;Bitter Chocolate&#8221; by Pinki Virani about Child Sexual Abuse. There were several examples of incest &amp; the impact it has on the victims. Yes, it is very,very difficult for victims to be able to trust their own people, forget trusting a stranger. And worse, their self-belief, confidence &amp; Life itself changes for ever. Sadly, this is a reality in many homes &amp; the stigma attached to the same keeps the family from reporting it. What purpose does the revelation serve anyway? Apart from questions raised over the victim&#8217;s character ??</p>
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		<title>By: archana raghuram</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3459</link>
		<dc:creator>archana raghuram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for those insights Janet.</description>
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		<title>By: Janet Walgren</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3458</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Walgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senthil,

In the west role playing is much the same and the the majority of families in the U.S. are stable and conservative. What you see in movies and on T.V. are not the norm.

The sad thing about incest and crimes of sexual abuse in families is that across the board, regardless of culture, most crimes I studied pointed to families that looked normal from the outside. In many cases, incestuous fathers appeared like &quot;super dads&quot; to the unknowing, unsuspecting neighbors.

There is a grooming process that occurs before the crimes commence. The intended vitcims are made to feel isolated from the outside world and made to believe that they can&#039;t trust anyone. They are dominated, mentally abused then physically abused after they believe that there is no help for them.

When they are abused, they feel like they are to blame and they believe that bad things will happen to them and to their family if they tell.

As for other violent sexual crimes of rape by a stranger, pornography had a very strong connection. In all police jurisdictions that tracked the issue of pornography, it was present and used almost 100% of the time immediately prior to the crime. Drug use was also common but not nearly as much as pornography.

Another factor was, that most often, the perpetrator of the crime had been the victim of the same crime in their youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senthil,</p>
<p>In the west role playing is much the same and the the majority of families in the U.S. are stable and conservative. What you see in movies and on T.V. are not the norm.</p>
<p>The sad thing about incest and crimes of sexual abuse in families is that across the board, regardless of culture, most crimes I studied pointed to families that looked normal from the outside. In many cases, incestuous fathers appeared like &#8220;super dads&#8221; to the unknowing, unsuspecting neighbors.</p>
<p>There is a grooming process that occurs before the crimes commence. The intended vitcims are made to feel isolated from the outside world and made to believe that they can&#8217;t trust anyone. They are dominated, mentally abused then physically abused after they believe that there is no help for them.</p>
<p>When they are abused, they feel like they are to blame and they believe that bad things will happen to them and to their family if they tell.</p>
<p>As for other violent sexual crimes of rape by a stranger, pornography had a very strong connection. In all police jurisdictions that tracked the issue of pornography, it was present and used almost 100% of the time immediately prior to the crime. Drug use was also common but not nearly as much as pornography.</p>
<p>Another factor was, that most often, the perpetrator of the crime had been the victim of the same crime in their youth.</p>
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		<title>By: senthil</title>
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		<dc:creator>senthil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another angle to this cultural aspect..

In indic conservative culture, we dont live our life..  rather play our roles in life..  An unmarried youth roams freely looking for beautiful gals, but once he marries, he started playing the different roles as husband, father.. 

With roles, comes the responsbility, and with responsibility, a stability of family and society..

This is one important factor distinguishing from individualized west and social east..

Even in the west, these type of crimes would be absent in conservative families..

Just my thoughts..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another angle to this cultural aspect..</p>
<p>In indic conservative culture, we dont live our life..  rather play our roles in life..  An unmarried youth roams freely looking for beautiful gals, but once he marries, he started playing the different roles as husband, father.. </p>
<p>With roles, comes the responsbility, and with responsibility, a stability of family and society..</p>
<p>This is one important factor distinguishing from individualized west and social east..</p>
<p>Even in the west, these type of crimes would be absent in conservative families..</p>
<p>Just my thoughts..</p>
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		<title>By: archana raghuram</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>archana raghuram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great information, Janet. Thank you. Crime in one side of the street being far less than the other side - it speaks volumes about the importance of proper punishment.

Regarding Arab countries, the crime rates are definitely very low, however there is a downside in terms of human rights violation. My cousin, who worked in the middle east told me that &quot;you are are guilty unless proven innocent&quot;. I asked him what happens if you punish an innocent man, he said that they believe Allah will make sure it does not happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information, Janet. Thank you. Crime in one side of the street being far less than the other side &#8211; it speaks volumes about the importance of proper punishment.</p>
<p>Regarding Arab countries, the crime rates are definitely very low, however there is a downside in terms of human rights violation. My cousin, who worked in the middle east told me that &#8220;you are are guilty unless proven innocent&#8221;. I asked him what happens if you punish an innocent man, he said that they believe Allah will make sure it does not happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Walgren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Walgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archana, I&#039;m not sure that I can give you a valid answer about cultures in the way that you are thinking because I studied the cultures as sub-cultures living in the United States. I don&#039;t know if the U.S. culture played a part in causing the persons to deviate from their native culture but I think that it does play a role.

When I have more time I will do a post on this on my blog.

As for punishment being a deterant, it absolutely is. When I lived in Detroit, MI, I learned this in an interesting way. The metro area is like a checker board of cities where one only needs cross a street to go from city to city. In the cities where there were consequences for a criminal act, it was safe to walk alone at midnight, but in some cases it wasn&#039;t safe to walk alone at noon on the other side of the street which was a different city without consequences.

I have heard that in some Arabic countries that some of my friends have visited, they were pushed to the front of a crowd to watch a public execution. In those places jewelry shops with valuable diamonds were left unattended without fear of theft because the crime wasn&#039;t worth the punishment. In those countries adultry = a death sentence for a woman but men were treated differently. They could have mulitple wives and could marry close relatives.

It would be an interesting study because in those countries it is considered ok for a Muslim man to have consentual sex or even  to rape a non-Muslim woman, but having consentual adulterous sex with, or raping, a Muslim woman is taboo = a death sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archana, I&#8217;m not sure that I can give you a valid answer about cultures in the way that you are thinking because I studied the cultures as sub-cultures living in the United States. I don&#8217;t know if the U.S. culture played a part in causing the persons to deviate from their native culture but I think that it does play a role.</p>
<p>When I have more time I will do a post on this on my blog.</p>
<p>As for punishment being a deterant, it absolutely is. When I lived in Detroit, MI, I learned this in an interesting way. The metro area is like a checker board of cities where one only needs cross a street to go from city to city. In the cities where there were consequences for a criminal act, it was safe to walk alone at midnight, but in some cases it wasn&#8217;t safe to walk alone at noon on the other side of the street which was a different city without consequences.</p>
<p>I have heard that in some Arabic countries that some of my friends have visited, they were pushed to the front of a crowd to watch a public execution. In those places jewelry shops with valuable diamonds were left unattended without fear of theft because the crime wasn&#8217;t worth the punishment. In those countries adultry = a death sentence for a woman but men were treated differently. They could have mulitple wives and could marry close relatives.</p>
<p>It would be an interesting study because in those countries it is considered ok for a Muslim man to have consentual sex or even  to rape a non-Muslim woman, but having consentual adulterous sex with, or raping, a Muslim woman is taboo = a death sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: archana raghuram</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3443</link>
		<dc:creator>archana raghuram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet - Thank you very much. Would love to know more about your research. How many cultures did you study? Did you find any correlation between punishments and prevalence of the crime? Is it less prevalent in islamic world?

Karthik - Thanks a lot. Completely agree with you and Janet on the punishment bit. There is tendency these days, to pass of lot of crime as mental illness. It is high time we put our foot down and recognize a terrible crime for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet &#8211; Thank you very much. Would love to know more about your research. How many cultures did you study? Did you find any correlation between punishments and prevalence of the crime? Is it less prevalent in islamic world?</p>
<p>Karthik &#8211; Thanks a lot. Completely agree with you and Janet on the punishment bit. There is tendency these days, to pass of lot of crime as mental illness. It is high time we put our foot down and recognize a terrible crime for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik .Pk</title>
		<link>http://archanaraghuram.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/incest-father/#comment-3442</link>
		<dc:creator>Karthik .Pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Archana...

I cannot but agree with Janet that  such people should be punished..I mean a first male a girl trusts is her dad...if he breaks the trust then punishments have to be stringent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Archana&#8230;</p>
<p>I cannot but agree with Janet that  such people should be punished..I mean a first male a girl trusts is her dad&#8230;if he breaks the trust then punishments have to be stringent.</p>
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